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Top 5 Tax & Legal Strategies Every Real Estate Professional Needs to Know w/Mark Kohler

As real estate agents and business owners, we work hard for our money. If we’re not organized or smart about our taxes, we’ll miss out on a lot of what we’ve earned. How do we dial-in our taxes and legal entities so that we can take advantage of some tax strategies that will put more money in our pockets? How do we choose between an S Corp or an LLC, and what are the benefits? How can we save ourselves up to $9k on taxes?

On this episode, we are joined by expert tax-attorney, best-selling author, and national speaker, Mark Kohler, who shares on 199A Pass-thru Limitations, revocable family trusts, opportunity shifting and more!

 

 

The tax planning, asset protection, and estate planning all need to be coordinated. -Mark Kohler  

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Listing Agent Boot Camp, April 24th - 27th in San Antonio, TX 

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

Why you need to be involved in your legal and tax planning process

Even if you think your accountant is doing a good job on your taxes, there are strategies they need to implement with you. There needs to be a conversation about certain things. Be involved enough to call the shots as the captain of the ship.

How to save on over $9k in taxes by making a simple switch

The reality is some people are netting $100k and paying up to $40k in tax. You can make a change that means you end up only paying $6k in tax. You can take an LLC and turn it into an S Corp, and then take a payroll of $40k and make the $60k a draw. You still made $100k but you changed the character of it. You’ll pay $6k in taxes but on the other 60% you avoid the entire 15% of taxes. The beauty of that switch is the more money you make, the more money you save.

The best way to pay family members

If you have kids under 18, you shouldn’t pay them directly out of the S-Corp. You can set up a family management sole proprietorship, and determine good pay levels for your kids helping in your business.

 

If we’re not intentional about how we’ve set up our business and legal entities, we could be losing up to 50% of our earnings to tax. The reason wealthy people have the money they have is that they take advantage of tax laws that benefit them, and with the new tax code, this is something business owners like us can do. By working with the right tax attorney, participating in the process, and coordinating our operations, holdings and family estate, you can save thousands of dollars. It’s about keeping the maximum amount of money that you can, and keeping the IRS informed to keep them happy.

Guest Bio

Mark J. Kohler, M.Pr.A., C.P.A., J.D., is a best-selling author, national speaker, radio show host, writer and video personality for Entrepreneur.com. He's a real estate investor, senior partner in the law firm, Kyler, Kohler, Ostermiller & Sorensen, and the accounting firm of Kohler & Eyre, CPAs. Mark is a personal and small business tax and legal expert, who helps clients build and protect wealth through wealth management strategies, and business and tax remedies often overlooked in this challenging, ever-changing economic climate. His seminars have helped tens of thousands of individuals and small business owners navigate the maze of legal, regulatory and financial laws to greater success and wealth. Go to https://markjkohler.com/ to get his books and listen to his podcast, Refresh Your Wealth. Sign up for his email list and get his book 10 Best Tax Saving Secrets.

To get a free copy another of Mark’s book “Top 10 Legal and Tax Mistakes Made by Entrepreneurs”, go to http://clubwealth.com/cpa/.

Watch Mark’s video “Does the SEP or 401k Strategy Make More Sense?”

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How to Build a Successful Expansion Team w/Brandon Landro

The expansion model in real estate is one that many teams fail at, even when they are really strong in their original market. What are some of the reasons expansions don’t work out, and how can we prevent those issues? How do we choose the right area to expand in? How do we staff our expansion teams, especially when it comes to the leadership? On this episode, Brandon Landro shares how his team is crushing their expansion, and the pieces they’ve put in place to make it work.

 

 

It’s our job to build the systems to allow them to be successful. If you don’t have the resources or the time, you are not doing your part. -Brandon Landro

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Listing Agent Boot Camp, April 24th - 27th in San Antonio, TX 

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

How to choose the right expansion market

If you’re looking to expand, consider a market you can drive to, not somewhere that requires a flight. You’ll understand how things work and can quickly get there in the event of a crisis. The branding can step in and answer every single question in a market that’s still local, whereas in a market that’s far away, you just won’t know the contractual information, and no amount of branding will be able to make up for that.

Why you need to expand from a position of strength

When you’re expanding into another market, remember to continue to do business in the market you’re in because that market is feeding the expansion one. You’re not going to make money in your new market immediately, so your original business has to be strong enough to support the expansion.

The wrong point to step out of production

Many people say they want to step out of production way too early, when their transactions are still the bulk of the team’s production. If you step out too early, we’ll end up weakening or even destroying the team.

 

Expansion isn’t something to do on a whim— certain conditions have to be present in order for it to succeed. There has to be an opportunity for it, and you have to have a running well-oiled machine running already. If you’re making mistakes in your current market, they will be carried over into the next one, and if you’re doing well that will carry over too. It’s a lot easier to build from a center of strength. The fruits of a good expansion is market dominance, and the perception that you’re everywhere which will attract both clients and agents to our teams.

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How to Harness The Power of the Phone w/Albert Garibaldi

Too many agents wait for business to come to them instead of getting on the phone and chasing leads. What are some of the causes of phone paralysis and how can we overcome them? How do you live your life with passion by serving your clients?

In this explosive episode of Club Wealth TV, we propel you right into the New Year with Albert Garibaldi, top motivational speaker and author, who has had a brilliant real estate career with $1M in GCI. He shares on finding success on the phone, navigating rejection, and building confidence.

 

 

The first 10-15 second from the time they pick up the phone are the seconds you to connect with them. -Albert Garibaldi

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Listing Agent Boot Camp, April 24th - 27th in San Antonio, TX 

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

  • How to fuel your goals
    Write down specific a “why” for what you want to do and that will give you the burning desire to get into action. You have to be really specific so that “why” helps you overcome any hesitation, procrastination or inaction.  

  • How to succeed with expired's
    Mirror their emotions whether they are mad or annoyed, get on their side, and then take them where you’re going. Start with mirroring and matching them so they feel understood.

  • The importance of tracking your goals
    In order to keep pushing yourself towards something, it’s important to make note of even small successes. The reason it often feels like we’re not getting anywhere is that we don’t look back at our goals so we can see the small wins.

 

The reason so many agents struggle to get any real results and never reach their full potential is the way they think about the phone. Whether you’re hesitant, scared of rejection, or just not committed to doing it consistently, this shows up in the prospecting results you get. The most powerful thing we can do is dedicate ourselves to the phone, stop telling ourselves negative stories, and keep track of our goals so we can actually see the small wins. This is how we can be unstoppable in 2019.

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How to Bring in Over 400 People to Your Next Client Event w/Dan Baltzer

Client events are something we can leverage to help the community and build stronger relationships. How do you create a big enough draw to get hundreds of people to attend? How do you make sure every stakeholder of the event gets a good outcome? Why is the week after the event so critical? On this episode, Dan Baltzer shares how he gets over 850 people to his client events, and how he uses it to grow his business.

 

The thing you’re creating has to be a big enough hook to interrupt people’s daily planned schedule. -Dan Baltzer

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Listing Agent Boot Camp, April 24th - 27th in San Antonio, TX 

 

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

Why you must know your stakeholders

When planning your event, you need to know who your stakeholders are. Those are the people you need to make happy. These stakeholders include the venue, vendor partners, and the attendees. Craft the event to make all these people happy. If we make agents our stakeholders, we’ll get them to buy into it.

 

How events impact your sphere of influence communication

Client events give us the opportunity to have multiple and frequent touch points. We can call them a few times to invite them, confirm their attendance, etc. This gives us a reason to call our sphere multiple times without ever asking for anything.

 

How to optimize the experience  

When planning an event, make sure to walk through the space to see how the people will move through it. Check for any choke points, or any point at which the foot traffic isn’t going towards all the vendors. Remember: controlling the path people take controls the whole experience.

 

Client events can be an opportunity to drive massive traffic which turns into opportunities for our agents. It’s all about thinking differently about events and paying attention to detail. We have to be clear on the experience we want everyone to have. Everyone there should feel loved and valued. We won’t get positive results unless we do this. If we do it well enough, our sphere of influence will grow, the community will look forward to our events, and vendors will endorse us.  

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Providing Value to Agents & Stepping Out of Production at the Right Time w/ Sarah & Giovanni Santa Ana

Real estate offers a wide range of models, and each of them teaches us valuable lessons about what is possible. What is the unique model our guests use, and how do they make it valuable for agents? Why is being part of a team so much better than working as a solo agent? Why is it so important that team leaders provide value beyond leads? On this episode, husband and wife team leaders, Sarah and Giovanni Santa Ana, share how they run their team and brokerage at a high level.

 

There are specific ways to build a successful team, and you need support. -Sarah Santa Ana

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

 

How to provide real value to agents

The more we add to the value of what we provide to agents, the more they’ll want to stay with us. Providing leads alone simply isn’t good enough. We also need to provide coaching and help them remove the time-consuming things that take them away from doing business.

 

Working as a solo agent vs. joining a team

Many people think it’s easy to be solo and that joining a team wouldn’t be worthwhile. The truth is, it’s highly unlikely that someone leaves a team and increases their number of transactions per year. Teams make it easier to be successful.

 

When to consider getting out of production

Only consider getting out of production when you have a minimum of 15 really good producing agents on the team. Their production has to be enough to support you, your lifestyle, and everything else that needs to happen to fund the team. Only then you can think about getting out of production.  

 

For a real estate business to really provide value, grow consistently, and have the leader out of production, strong systems must be in place. That means having a value proposition that isn’t based on leads, recruiting really well, and having enough good people on the team to sustain the team leader if they go out of production. When building a team, even though your production numbers are going up, your net income in the first year of building goes down. That’s something you have to be anticipating. If you’re too anxious to get out of production, you’re more likely to miss these key details and end up struggling to keep things going.

 

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How to Leverage & Benefit from the Rise of iBuyer Programs w/Long Doan

Anytime a new model disrupts the real estate industry, agents and business owners feel threatened. The latest model to do this is iBuyers. How does the model work, and how is it solving the pain points of home sellers? Are there any opportunities for real estate agents within this model? What is the long-term strategy of models like iBuyer? On this episode, we are joined by Long Doan to talk about why we shouldn’t feel threatened by the iBuyer business model.

 

 

You are the CEO of your own company, and there are only 3 activities you should be doing. Innovation, quantification and orchestration. -Long Doan

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Listing Agent Boot Camp, April 24th - 27th in San Antonio, TX 

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

  • How the iBuyer model actually works
    The iBuyer concept has actually been around forever. It’s just real estate investors going in to offer cash to buy a home but using more technology to do it. An iBuyer is a real estate investor that uses a proprietary model to come up with a value so they can make a cash offer within minutes to buy the home and close quickly.

  • The pain points iBuyers are solving
    iBuyer programs are succeeding because they are solving the pain points of sellers. One of the biggest of these is that some real estate agents just aren’t good, and the iBuyers allow sellers to skip the process of working with an agent. The other pain points are the various hassles and stressors that sellers deal with during the transaction.

  • What business owners should be focusing on
    There are three things every business owner should be doing. Innovation is learning everything you need to know to grow your business and implementing it. Quantification is tracking and documenting everything. The third thing is orchestration, which is putting people, systems and processes in place to run our businesses well.  

 

As the market shifts and changes, we’re going to see a lot more iBuyer programs. As business leaders we can either feel threatened into inaction, or we can try to find the opportunities. The truth is, iBuyers still need to work with agents in many ways, and that means we can partner up with them to our benefit. If we’re really good at providing value, we’ll always come out on top.

 

Guest Bio

Long Doan is a real estate coach and broker/CEO of the Long Doan team at RG Realty Group.

He has been in the real estate industry for 25 years. As the top 1% Agent in Minnesota and in the country, he has a proven track record. His company is one of the fastest growing real estate brokerages in Minnesota, providing a full-service real estate brokerage where they handle all types of real estate transactions, ranging from Traditional to Luxury, Short Sales to Bank Owned, Investments to Non-Performing Notes acquisition, Property Management to Rentals, and Commercial to Businesses. Go to https://longdoan.realtygroupmn.com for more information.

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How to Become a Master of Scripts & Dialogue w/Alexis Bolin

Many agents are terrified of fumbling over a script and ruining their interaction with a prospect. What is a key mindset shift we should have about scripts and how we use them? What are some of the things that go wrong with scripts, and how do we break tension and awkwardness? On this episode, we are joined by real estate legend and queen of scripts, negotiation and dialogue, Alexis Bolin, to talk about sharpening our communication skills.

 

Scripts and dialogue are nothing more than asking the right questions. -Alexis Bolin

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Business Strategy Mastermind Conference November 12th-15th 2018 in Anaheim, CA

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

  • Why we should not try to be our agents’ friend
    When it comes to our teams and agents, we need to stop trying to be their friend. When we do that, we’re not doing them any favors because it leads them to shake off the responsibility they have for their own success. We give them the tools, support and systems and the rest is on them.

  • How to rethink scripts
    We call them scripts and dialogues, but they are nothing more than answering questions and providing information. If we learn to gather information properly by asking the questions, we can provide what the prospect is looking for..

  • How to have tough discussions with clients
    Not everything we’re going to say to our clients is going to be something they want to hear. Sometimes they’ll have to hear some hard truths. To do this without negatively impacting the relationship, ask for permission to deliver a message to prepare them for it.

Scripts are everywhere in our lives, whether it’s learning the alphabet, counting, or song lyrics. We shouldn’t look at scripts like as an impossible obstacle to overcome. It’s all about communicating, being empathetic, and being genuine. If we genuinely care, this will shine through every single word we say. Excelling at scripts comes down to knowing when to talk and when to listen.

 

Guest Bio

Originally from the Jersey shore, born in Long Branch, NJ, Alexis graduated Red Bank High School, and worked 18 years as a waitress. Fourteen of those years, were worked at the Officer’s Club at Fort Monmouth, NJ and another four years at Fort Gordon, GA prior to moving to the Gulf Breeze in the Pensacola area in November of 1977. During most of that time period Alexis was a single mother working three waitress jobs to support her children with no child support or alimony. Alexis obtained her Real Estate license in May 1978 and her Florida Broker’s license in 1980. She started as a new agent in 1978 and worked 39 years the same Real Estate Franchise prior to joining Keller Williams Realty Gulf Coast in July 2017.

Her accolades include, being Number 1 Agent Nationwide for ERA Real Estate 3 times, ranking among the Top of All Agents Nationwide, being one of 100 Most Influential Agents in Florida, one of the Most Awarded Agents in the Nation, International Real Estate Hall of Fame 2013 and Real Estate Experts Hall of Fame 2013. Go to http://www.alexissellshomes.com/default or https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexis-bolin-b1145310/ for more information.

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Recruiting: How to Find, Hire & Train the Best Talent for Our Teams w/Jay Niblick

Recruiting is constantly on the minds of leaders looking for the best way to bring on talent. Why is it so important to have filters in our hiring process? What does a candidate’s resume really tell you, and how should their personality factor in? Should we only be looking for licensed agents? On this episode, Wizehire CEO Jay Niblick shares insights on their process and how they help team leaders get the best people to come onboard.

 

When you’re hiring, take your sales hat off and put on your home seller hat. -Jay Niblick

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Business Strategy Mastermind Conference November 12th-15th 2018 in Anaheim, CA

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

  • How to know you need to bring someone on
    The key metric that determines whether we should be hiring someone to help us is when we get to a point where we can’t handle the business because we’re doing other things like admin. When our bandwidth is maxed out even with an assistant, that’s when you need to bring on a buyer’s agent or two.

  • Hiring on the resume vs. hiring on personality
    Don’t base your hiring decision too much on the resume. Remember: it’s a document written by a salesperson, and they will sell themselves as well as they possibly can. Even if they have references, it’s not like they will put the boss that last fired them. Put the weight of the decision on their personality and the interview.

  • Why unlicensed agents can also be great hires
    A lot of us shy away from agents who are newer to the industry, or aren’t licensed yet. However, we have to question why the more experienced agent isn’t managing to get to the next level, and whether we might have to train out some bad habits. With new agents, we can start them off as ISAs for 90 days, train them, and see if they can grow. That’s a great filter for getting really good talent and then making sure they fit the culture.

 

When we’re faced with a wide pool of talent, it can be difficult to bring it down to the valuable few that will really boost our businesses. DISC profiles help us determine the kind of people they are and what we can expect, but personality and character matter, too. Are they willing to do a DISC assessment, show up to calls on time, and reply to emails? Those things are all very telling. When we hire, we should think like a home seller who has something of value to award to the right person. When that right person comes along, they are given the opportunity of working with us.

 

Guest Bio

Jay Niblick is the founder of Wize Hire, a real estate recruiting software with a data-driven approach to the hiring process. He matches companies with the perfect candidate based on behaviour, communication style, and values. For more information, go to. https://wizehire.com/.

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How Tim Ray Went From Closing 78 Units to Over 450 per Year in Just Two Years

Growth is what all agents and team leaders dream about, but how can we make the progression easier? In what circumstances are partnerships desirable? How many times should we contact a lead? And why shouldn’t we aim to be a jack-of-all-trades? In this episode, Tim Ray shares his journey from closing 78 units per year to over 450 in only a short time.

 

Stop thinking about doing the work, and do the work. -Tim Ray

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Business Strategy Mastermind Conference November 12th-15th 2018 in Anaheim, CA

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

  1. How to make partnerships work

Partnerships can become tricky if only one person carries the heavy load when the split is even. To make partnerships work, we have to either alter the split or recognize that the bulk of the work should be shared between partners.

 

  1. How many times we should contact a lead

With prospecting, we shouldn’t stop until we’re told by someone that we shouldn’t contact them again or that they’re ready to buy or sell.

 

  1. What to do with repetitive, time consuming-tasks

If we have to follow through with the exact same action twice, there’s a high chance that the task can be automated or at least done in a time-saving manner. When we have the right systems in place, the time spent on busy work is diminished.

 

As business owners, we may feel pressured to wear many hats, especially in the beginning when we can’t afford to outsource. As our business grows, it’s important to recognize what we’re good at and spend our time on activities that make use of our talents. There’s always something new to learn, especially since technology is changing at a rapid pace. However, we don’t have to learn everything, so it's wise to hire other people who can specialize in other roles.

Guest Bio

Tim Ray is the CEO of Home Smart Legacy and the team leader at Tim Ray Real Estate Team. Tim has over 20 years of experience in the real estate industry and is a tier 2 coach at Club Wealth. You can find out more about him here.

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How to Increase Your Conversion Rates with Internet Leads w/David Tal

Internet leads can be difficult to follow-up with and convert. Most of them never pick up the phone, and those who do aren’t interested in buying right away. How can we increase our chances of getting our phone calls answered? What’s the incubation period for internet leads, and how can we gain trust in the meantime? What can encourage sellers and buyers to let their guard down? In this episode, David Tal talks about lead follow-up and how we can build trust with internet leads using ISA’s.

 

People tend to lower their guard when they don’t speak to the agent immediately because there is a sense people have that they are going to be sold right away.
-David Tal

 

Resources: 

- Join the Club Wealth Real Estate Agent Mastermind Facebook Group

- Get info on the Business Strategy Mastermind Conference November 12th-15th 2018 in Anaheim, CA

 

Three Things We Learned From This Episode

  • Don’t try to sell right away
    Most people have their guard up when they interact with agents because they expect to be sold to right away. With ISA’s, their guards are lower because they aren’t expecting the same. The ISA’s initiate the conversation, welcome leads, and give value instead of trying to go for the listing from the first conversation.

  • Internet leads are "potential leads"—not leads
    We can’t approach internet leads the same way we approach people who walk into our office, because internet leads aren’t as motivated to buy right now. As a result, we have to interact more with internet leads to close a sale. When scaling a business, we have to remember that unless we outsource some of our sales calls, we might end up working all the time— especially since most leads come in during the weekends.

  • Provide continuous value
    Agents need to provide value to potential clients in order to foster trust. Most people aren’t ready to buy right away, so instead of trying to convince them to buy now, give them a list of open houses they can look at on their own. This sort of value builds a connection that lasts longer.


Most people dislike receiving phone calls from numbers that they don’t recognize. To ensure our calls are picked up, we should initiate the conversation with our internet leads via text. This way, we let them know who we are and see whether they want to continue the conversation via text or phone call. If leads fail to respond, using the double dial method usually stirs their curiosity enough to make them pick up the phone.

 

Guest Bio

David Tal is the CEO and co-founder of Agentology.com where he helps agents and real estate teams put their lead generation on autopilot. His team of ISA’s follow up with real estate leads 24/7.

You can find out more about how Agentology works and what results you can expect here.

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